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    <title>Comments for Well, how does it look?</title>
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    <updated>2006-03-20T22:26:45Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:561</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ronaldo on 2003-01-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ronaldo</name>
        <uri>http://www.reflectivesurface.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.reflectivesurface.com/">
        Cool. I prefer this new design to the old one. Easier to read. However, I didn't like the way the input fields are rendered in the comments section. It takes a little to realize that you can type on them, and when the text exceeds the size of the boxes, they looks strange.

<p>By the way, you could add the other styles as alternate stylesheets using link tags. It would make easier to Mozilla users to switch styles if they wanted without having to resort to a preferences page and cookies (which some people disable completely).</p>]]>
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    <published>2003-01-13T15:26:45Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:562</id>
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    <title>Comment from Brad Choate on 2003-01-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brad Choate</name>
        <uri>http://www.bradchoate.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.bradchoate.com/">
        Yes, I thought about listing alternate stylesheets in the head block. While it makes it easy for Mozilla users, I needed a solution that works for everyone. And although Mozilla lets you change to another stylesheet, there isn't any way to specify an alternate stylesheet as a permanent choice. So with each page view, you'd have to reselect the one you want. That's no fun.]]>
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    <published>2003-01-13T17:34:07Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:563</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin Shay on 2003-01-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kevin Shay</name>
        <uri>http://www.staggernation.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.staggernation.com">
        Looks great!

<p>One small thing -- I'm getting a JavaScript error on the individual archive pages in IE: "'document.comments_form.email' is not an object". I think you might need <code>name="comments_form"</code> in the <code>form</code> tag in addition to <code>id="comments_form"</code>.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-13T18:29:06Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:564</id>
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    <title>Comment from Brad Choate on 2003-01-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brad Choate</name>
        <uri>http://www.bradchoate.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.bradchoate.com/">
        Yes -- I noticed that. I've added back the 'name' attribute to the &lt;form&gt; tag for the time being. The only problem with doing that is that it makes all my individual archives invalid according to the XHTML 1.0 Strict recommendation (<a href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer">see for yourself</a>). I don't understand why the form tag can't have a 'name' attribute but the form element tags (input, etc.) can.

<p>So if you can't refer to your forms without a 'name' element defined, how do you embed and script for forms under XHTML 1.0 Strict??</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-13T18:59:08Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:566</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin Shay on 2003-01-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kevin Shay</name>
        <uri>http://www.staggernation.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.staggernation.com/">
        Hmm, that's annoying. I guess you could just refer to the form as an element of the <code>document.forms</code> array:

<p><code>document.forms[0].email.value = ...;</code></p>

<p>Of course, that's prone to breaking if you ever rearrange stuff on your page, or there's a form within an entry, etc.</p>]]>
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    <published>2003-01-13T19:19:15Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:568</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from Mike James on 2003-01-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mike James</name>
        <uri>http://pobox.com/~mwjames/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://pobox.com/~mwjames/">
        Coding details aside, I think the new logo is way cool.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-14T01:26:17Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:570</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ashutosh on 2003-01-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ashutosh</name>
        <uri>http://www.askthefool.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.askthefool.com">
        I preferred the old look a lot better so I've set that in my prefrences page.

<p>Another thing you might want to consider incorporating is having changable font size. I think you could write a javascript function to create diffrent style sheets. I've seen it done on a few site, but since you have six or so types of styles that would end up making 18 or so style sheets</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-14T03:57:34Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:575</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from mini-d on 2003-01-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>mini-d</name>
        <uri>http://www.minid.net</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.minid.net">
        The changes feels good... go on Brad.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-14T10:41:04Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:576</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from Damelon Kimbrough on 2003-01-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Damelon Kimbrough</name>
        <uri>http://www.divagation.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.divagation.com/">
        Congratulations! The new layout looks spiffy. If I had a quarter of your apparent potential for absorbing material and then implementing it, I would be dangerous.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-14T13:06:51Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:579</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from David on 2003-01-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>David</name>
        <uri>http://www.engel5.net</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.engel5.net">
        I like the new skin, but I have one question. Is the background supposed to be gray, or is that because I have turned off "use Windows colors" in IE?

<p>Are you setting the background colors?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-14T22:06:32Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:580</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from Brad Choate on 2003-01-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brad Choate</name>
        <uri>http://www.bradchoate.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.bradchoate.com/">
        Good call. The 'Blue' skin now sets a background color. Thanks for that catch.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-14T22:29:16Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:581</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from Donna on 2003-01-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Donna</name>
        <uri>http://www.deliriouscool.org</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.deliriouscool.org">
        I like the new look but I preferred the old one because it's more colorful - I feel like I see white backgrounds everywhere.  I love the work you've done though - thanks for making it learning opportunity for the rest of us!]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-15T01:38:37Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:582</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from Chris on 2003-01-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris</name>
        <uri>http://today.icantfocus.com/blog/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://today.icantfocus.com/blog/">
        Looks good Brad! Keep up the good work. :-)<br />
I'm in the midst of a major reboot myself. I was just testing my site using Lynx and figured I'd give yours a try. Looks good! There's something refreshing and satsifying about being able to use our sites via Lynx. Try lynx on some major sites out there: it's painful. <br />
Of course, there's always something to be said about Doing The Right Thing and going that extra mile with your site, especially when it comes to stuff like the accessibility practices at diveintoaccessibility.org]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-15T08:02:44Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:584</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from goneaway on 2003-01-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>goneaway</name>
        <uri>http://www.teammurder.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.teammurder.com">
        Everything looks good in links, elinks, and w3m so I'd say the text browser implementation was a success. I'm fond of cleaner layouts these days and this is a pleasant compromise. Maybe I'm just a sucker for duotone.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-15T09:36:55Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:586</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from robert on 2003-01-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>robert</name>
        <uri>http://rino.bowdoin.edu</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://rino.bowdoin.edu">
        Hey. It is a lot of work. I aborted 3/4 of the way through on a recent revamp.

<p>As an FYI... Your extlinks class is not handled by Safari. I don't have time to go through any tests right now but I am guessing it is choking on the addition of a background-image applied to a link. <br />
Background image works in other situations with the khtml renderer but not in this instance.</p>

<p><a href="http://rino.bowdoin.edu/img/use/bradchoateOnSafari.gif" rel="nofollow">Here is snap.</a></p>

<p>Oh, one more thing... thanks so much for your MT plug-in work -- I couldn't post my thanks before! MTIfCategory was a lifesaver! </p>]]>
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    <published>2003-01-15T19:41:35Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:587</id>
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    <title>Comment from Brad Choate on 2003-01-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brad Choate</name>
        <uri>http://www.bradchoate.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.bradchoate.com/">
        Yes, I noticed that under Safari -- I'm leaving it that way though.  Safari is just a beta release, so I consider that to be a bug that Apple needs to fix instead of my problem. I'm not about to start writing multiple stylesheets or stylesheet rules for particular browsers. All my stylesheets so far work just fine (from what I've seen) in every modern browser without the need for any weirdo CSS syntax to hide this or that from particular browsers.]]>
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    <published>2003-01-15T19:49:22Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:589</id>
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    <title>Comment from robert on 2003-01-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>robert</name>
        <uri>http://rino.bowdoin.edu</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://rino.bowdoin.edu">
        You are on top of it all!

<p>I agree. Take note, move along...<br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-15T21:28:28Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:590</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jesper on 2003-01-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jesper</name>
        <uri>http://wootest.cjb.net/waffle/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://wootest.cjb.net/waffle/">
        I'd like to acknowledge myself as a (read: the) beta tester of this handsome devil of a site. Brad gave me his heartfelt thanks to me earlier today on AIM, but I felt like introducing myself here too, since all isn't done yet. (note to Brad: remember info-checkbox. Label that beast.)]]>
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-16T02:28:03Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-comment:592</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
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    <title>Comment from Jay on 2003-01-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jay</name>
        <uri>http://www.jayallen.org</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.jayallen.org">
        Hey Brad, the redesign looks (and feels) great.  Coincidentally, it looks like you and I have been doing the <a href="http://www.jayallen.org/journey/2003_01.php#002282" rel="nofollow">exact same thing</a> over the same time period: Reworking our entire site in XHTML-Strict and adhering to accessibility guideliness.  Mark Pilgrim's crusade has done some good, indeed. :-)

<p>Anyway, I seem to be having the same paradoxical problem you are with the FORM name vs id issue and validation.  If you come up with any solution, let me know.  I'll do the same...</p>]]>
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    <published>2003-01-16T17:59:06Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-ping:271</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css#p271" />
    <title>Oh yeah, add keywords</title>
    <author>
        <name>blogCogley</name>
        <uri>http://rick.cogley.info/eblog/earchive/000111.html</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://rick.cogley.info/eblog/earchive/000111.html">
        Add keywords Brad Choate: Welcome
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    <published>2003-01-13T16:52:56Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-ping:278</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css#p278" />
    <title>Lynx Friendly</title>
    <author>
        <name>I Can&apos;t Focus</name>
        <uri>http://today.icantfocus.com/blog/archives/entries/000107.xsp</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://today.icantfocus.com/blog/archives/entries/000107.xsp">
         I got curious and installed the Lynx text based browser on one of the FreeBSD boxes to take a
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    <published>2003-01-15T08:09:17Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-ping:280</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css#p280" />
    <title>Budapest, Hungary</title>
    <author>
        <name>JayAllen - The Daily Journey</name>
        <uri>http://www.jayallen.org/journey/2003_01.php#002282</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.jayallen.org/journey/2003_01.php#002282">
        On my browser toolbar, there is a bookmark folder called &quot;Left Off&quot;. Usually I use this folder to bookmark all
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-16T14:27:57Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-ping:282</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css#p282" />
    <title>Catching Up</title>
    <author>
        <name>John&apos;s Jottings</name>
        <uri>http://www.johnsjottings.com/archives/catching_up.html</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.johnsjottings.com/archives/catching_up.html">
        A lot of interesting things have been going on in the web log world that I need to get caught
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-20T13:43:07Z</published>
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<entry>
    <id>tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365-ping:283</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:bradchoate.com,2003://4.1365" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css"/>
 
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://bradchoate.com/weblog/2003/01/13/css#p283" />
    <title>Not a bad way to get started.</title>
    <author>
        <name>Live in the Delirious Cool</name>
        <uri>http://www.deliriouscool.org/archives/000867.php</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.deliriouscool.org/archives/000867.php">
        A huge variety of participation positives, chock full of linkety goodness.
    </content>
    <published>2003-01-20T20:03:28Z</published>
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<entry>
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    <title>In brief: 14 Jan 2003</title>
    <author>
        <name>dive into mark</name>
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        A little of everything.
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    <published>2003-08-08T23:34:18Z</published>
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